Meet the Party - C&S in CSIO

Werebear illustration from AD&D
Monster Manual. 

     I want to use some of the background posts I've been doing in the Wilderlands to run some soloplay Chivalry & Sorcery.  I've already detailed creating the Power Word Magician Mordacris in C&S.  Here's the rest of the party, I generated them using my C&S 1e character generator spreadsheet - which did identify an issue in how it handles Bastardy.

   

Ysolt

Human Female	Age 20			Level 1		XP	0
5’ 5”	110 Dr

Characteristics

DEX	13	ST	20(2)	CON	19	PA	15	BV	17
IQ	16	WIS	19	CHA	21	ALGN	5

Combat

Body	21	Fatigue	9	Carry Cap	638Dr
Military Ability	10.9	Command Level	6.45	PCF	14.33
	Blows	Damage	%HIt	%Parry
Light Weapons	2	3*WDF	+20%	-20%
Heavy Weapons	1	4*WDF	+18%	-12%
% Shield Parry	+18%	Dodge	-22%

Social

     Daughter of Simon, a Freehold Farmer of Tharbian background owing fealty to Baron Jaquob. She is his fifth child and is considered "Good Child". Her Superhuman strength makes her a formidable fighter.  Her dexterity, appearance, bardic voice, intelligence and wisdom - combined with her impressive strength give her a truly commanding presence. She has black hair, bronzed skin and light blue eyes.
She is a Neutrally aspected Leo and gets no bonus to experience.
Her father is a regular supplier of herbs and other spell components to Mordacris' master Athelbur. She has been hired to escort Mordacris to collect some rare spell components on the far side of Dearthwood.

Social Status

8

Basic Influence Factor

18.5

Languages: Common, Tharbian

Useful Skills:

Local Knowledge - identification of crops and livestock common in the area, as well as their state of health. Similarly, she is aware of types of major predators and they're preferred prey. She knows of the major locations around the City State, but has never visited most of them.

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Wulfgar

Human Male	Age 22			Level 1		XP	0
5’ 7”	130 Dr

Characteristics

DEX	7	ST	14	CON	12	PA	11	BV	15
IQ	17	WIS	9	CHA	12	ALGN	20

Combat

Body	10	Fatigue	6	Carry Cap	221Dr
Military Ability	3.9	Command Level	1.95	PCF	5.66
	Blows	Damage	%HIt	%Parry
Light Weapons	-	3*WDF	+5%	-5%
Heavy Weapons	_	3*WDF	-	-
% Shield Parry	-3%	Dodge	-5%

Social

Son of Arthur, a peddlar in the City State, he is the 6th child and is considered a "Credit to the Family".  He is an apprentice Assassin in the Thieves Guild, providing muscle and look out services for their heists. He is a poorly aspected Aquarius and suffers a -5% experience penalty. As an Assassin, he only gets 1/2 experience from using his thief skills, but full experience for fighting. He has black hair, olive skin and green-brown eyes. He is a childhood friend of Mordacris and is looking for some time out of town until the Watch forgets his face.

Social Status

2

Basic Influence Factor

8

  

Languages: Common

Useful Skills:
Thief Skills

Detect Trap +35%

Disarm Trap +5%Pick Pocket +5%

Chance of Discovery 45%/10% (at Night)

Local Knowledge - intimately familiar with the streets of the City State, it's markets, shops and temples. He has a 40% chance of finding his way across roof tops to any destination in the city and a 15% of finding his way through the catacombs underneath. He knows a number thieves in the Guild, but does NOT know of the ancient Master Thieves in the catacombs underneath the guildhouse. He can dispose of stolen goods and any items found on adventure through the Thieves Guild.


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Adenin

Werebear Male	Age 17			Level 1		XP	0
6’ 0”	180 Dr			MKL 1

Characteristics (Human)

DEX	1	ST	8	CON	10	PA	20	BV	17
IQ	17	WIS	20	CHA	20/22/14	ALGN	7

Combat

Body	11	Fatigue	3	Carry Cap	144Dr
Military Ability	8.8	Command Level	5.4	PCF	6.54
	Blows	Damage	%HIt	%Parry
Light Weapons	-	3*WDF	+8%	-8%
Heavy Weapons	-	3*WDF	+5%	-
% Shield Parry	-	Dodge	-8%

Social

     Baron Jaquob was an avid hunter in his youth. Once while out hunting, he spent an afternoon of dalliance with the daughter of a woodcutter. The following summer, he slew a sow bear and captured it's single cub. Upon death, the bear transformed back into the form of the woodcutter's daughter.  When the moon waned, the cub changed into a beautiful baby boy.
     The baron has never acknowledged the boy's paternity, but has raised him as his ward in his household. Adenin's clumsiness and middling strength, combined with his stellar intellect has caused his protector to obtain a place for him as a Priest of Uller. He has been sent to the Temple of Odin in the City State for training. His god-like appearance gives him a 22 Charisma with members of the opposite sex, 20 Charisma with members of the same sex and a 14 Charisma when dealing with members of either sex who are Ugly. (Those unfortunates with a Personal Appearance of less than 8.) He is a poorly aspected Aquarius. He receives +5% experience as a Cleric, -5% experience as a Fighter and a Magic User.

     As part of his training, he has been assigned to spend three weeks in an isolated cell in the eastern fringes of the Dearthwood. He will travel there with Ysolt and Mordacris. He has auburn hair, gray eyes and his complexion is a light yellow (Hex #FAFAD2 if you're having trouble visualizing it.)

Note: The spreadsheet didn't show him as an unacknowledged Bastard, and didn't calculate the Social Status correctly.  But the error gave me the idea of having him be the ward of his biological father.  And the rest is backstory.

Social Status

10

Basic Influence Factor

21

  Magick

Clerical Miracles Number/day: 1

Miracles Known

Cure Minor Wounds (6-10 point restored to Body and Fatigue. May be received 1/day by any character)
Note: He had a 60% chance of also having Purify Food & Water, but rolled too high. He can try again when he achieves 2nd level.

Miraculous Magical Effects

     All Clerics have a 60% - 5% per Alignment over 1 to be able to cast spells as a Primitive Talent Magic User, again he rolled too high. Clerics with Intelligence, Wisdom and Charisma of 15+, have the same percentage chance cast spells as a Shaman. He rolled a 28, the three weeks in the cell is when he will encounter his Totem Spirit (predetermined to be a bear). Until then he cannot cast spells.

Concentration Level

3.9

Personal Magick Factor

9.8

Magick Level

1

Spell Level

1

Direct Injurious Effect	Volume Multiplier (Missiles)	Volume Multiplier (Material)	Time Factor	Spell Range
2*EDF	2*	5*	4*MKL	10’ *MKL

Languages: Common, Tharbian

Spells:

Useful Skills:
Multiclass - Raised as a noble, he can fight as a Knight. He can earn experience as a fighter, cleric or magic user. Any experience will be based on the most favorable way of calculating it.

Local Knowledge - identification of crops and livestock common in the area. Similarly, he is aware of types of hunting prey and they're preferred habitats. He knows of the major locations around the City State, but has never visited most of them. He knows of major nobility in the City State and can correctly identify their heraldry and major manor locations 90% of the time. He is not personally acquainted with them.


Characteristics (Bear)
Body 70 Weight 900Dr Move 60/180

Armor 5 Hit +35% Dodge -25%

4*WDF MLC 6 Claws - 3 attacks, 14 points of damage each. H Weapon Bash
2*WDF MLB 3 Fangs - 2 attacks, 8 points damage each. L* Weapon Bash.
Hug - costs one blow. 3-18 damage (AC less than 6) 2-12 damage= AC greater than 5). May toss for 5-30 feet with a 25% chance of the victim being Stunned.

Another Box in the Basement

Cover Illustration

     I keep a lot of the stuff I picked up in the 70's and 80's, especially the old hex and counter games in a plastic bin in the basement.  I did find another use for the box this weekend, as it was the right height to support the running boards I was installing on the new truck.  Of course, I needed two bins of that height so I grabbed the one underneath, which I'd forgotten what had been packed into it when we moved in 1999.
     After I finished what became a long and painful process when the wrench slipped and I caught it on (not in) my mouth; I popped the top to see what was in it and found not only the board game 'CA' (heavy cruisers); but also my copy of Iron Crown Enterprises (ICE) Moria setting.
  This is a 71 page booklet, authorized by Tolkien Enterprises  in 1984, so it freely quotes from the LotR and reproduces information from the appendices in Return of the King.  
   The stats in the book use the ICE Middle Earth Role Playing System (MERPS), a d100 based system, but they offer handy conversion tables for a 1-20 scale, like D&D. 

Contents
    After the section on conversion there is a five page introduction to the area (if you haven't read LotR), climate, ecology, plant and animal life.  These include Lothfelag a rare mushroom capable of healing and even restoring life, and the bat swarm called the "Cavern Wing" - described as a twisted cloud of knives.


  Twelve pages mixing rehashed information from the appendices about the history of Moria and the

Dwarven Sketches - including
the illusive beardless female!

dwarves with a smattering of new information, such as dwarvish burial customs, then we get into Dwarven Technology, extensive fluff on smelting and forging and bar works and wore works and mold works, ending Cold Forging magical glass on an underground glacier.
  A few machines are described and illustrated, the only ones of note to me are the "Ram Drill" and the Fire Wagon, which heats the stone which is dowsed in ice water causing it to crack.
   Three magical items are described:
       Light stones - not quite eternal light sources in gem stones.
       Watchers-in-stone - not quite animated statues that guard and warn.
       Rune Keys - for the very best magical locks

Detail of a spiked trap

Fluff on arms and armor  and use of water power leads us to the meet of the booklet, a physical description of Moria.  It's avenues and roads, mines and crypts, the metals, the metals and gems they mine - and the traps they guard them with.  While they only list seven types of trap, I will say that the quality and ingeniousness of each is so high - I was disappointed when I picked up Grimtooth's Trap a couple years ago.  Razor studded chute traps that drop you into an abyss; traps that drop you into live steam or the wheel trap that will leave a thief as a greasy smear in the tunnel.




     A couple of pages on the orcs, trolls and the dreaded Balrog, before it returns to the layout of the

Map of 1st Level and 1st Deep

city.  Very small scale maps of each level and deep in Moria - little detail but the major roads and location of important features (Durin's Stairway, the Balrog's Throneroom etc), but that's what the accompanying random chart is for, detailing what the party encounters as the skulk through the caverns.
    The last few pages have adventure ideas for different times in Moria's past and one in the future (early Fourth Age), then a number of charts.







    Overall, a nice resource that I'm glad I found again.

 

Wilderlands - Baronies - further considerations

Ian Borchardt, whom I consider one of the luminaries over on MeWe, provided some excellent

Wolvesey Castle, Winchester

feedback on my last post.  So good that I asked for permission to address it directly in a post, as it gives me a chance to elaborate on my background thinking and intentions with my Wilderlands posts.

Technically a baron is anyone that holds land directly from the sovereign (or as an allodial [Rod - had to look this one up.  Land ownership by occupancy and defense of the land.] baron owns the land in freehold).   So counts, dukes, and marquis are also barons (but naturally socially outrank a mere Baron).  They just have larger holdings and greater responsibilities as officers of the sovereign.  Anyone else is a vasavor (a vassal of a vassal) [Rod - this one I knew] and holds from one of these barons, rather than the sovereign directly.

Rod - absolutely correct.  At Runnymeade, the most common title of nobility held by the rebel barons, was actually 'Earl'.  And looking at it that way, using the Chivalry & Sorcery domain rules, the largest possible 'barony', is 142.5 square miles for the main demesne PLUS 10 of the largest (118 square miles baronies) for a total of 1,326.875 square miles, rounding up to 62 five mile hexes.  [This tracks right on the figures from D&D and the Wilderlands baronies I calculated in the previous post, but it's a maximum rather than an average.] A strong king could control 2-3 times this amount of land.

I didn't pursue this for a couple of reasons, one of which I should have addressed.  The obvious one is that 'Baron' is a specific noble title in the Wilderlands, C&S, ACKS and the real world.  The one I should have addressed, and may have in an unsaved draft, is buried on page 59 of the CSIO booklet, under Boons and Duties.  One boon is a 'Bookland Grant'; Bookland being an alienation of common land into private ownership, a practice from Saxon England.  The boon grants a building in the city or 1-6 acres outside.  I had already decided that a grant of 1-6 HEXES to a noble man made more sense than acres.  Six acres being only half the size of a small Roman farm, it's not enough to support a nobleman.

I tend to use a six hex approach.  Something that is easy to patrol in a day looking for encounters.  Although I may deform the hex shape.  It will tend to avoid dedicated terrain hexes and follow rivers.  [I consider the "clear" hexes to be still heavily wooded, just not impenetrable forest.  It takes a lot of effort to clear land.]



Rod - personally I like to have natural borders for feudal polities.  It's much easier for the king to say

New Forest, Hampshire

you own from the river to the forest, than to give accurate geo-coordinates.   It still leaves a lot of room for dispute, but at least you can see the border.  Alas, the Wilderlands maps do not really provide much in the way of terrain to draw those borders, so I used a lot of hex sides myself.  I conceive of the clear terrain as a mixture of plowed fields, pasture and open woodlands with light underbrush - like the New Forest in Hampshire; rather than the heavy pine forests I grew up in in northern Minnesota.

On a quick note about patrols, please remember that whilst the local villagers may never have been more than a days journey from their home, they generally know that area very well, and are quick to note any irregularities.  A lord (as long as they don't actively mistreat their peasants), can usually rely on pretty good intelligence from the locals (after all anything bad is likely to affect them as bad or worse, and it is the responsibility of the lords to protect them, not for them to deal with the problem).

Rod - yep and I plotted the regularly visited boundaries around the villages, although I haven't gotten to the stage of assigning villages to rulers yet.  It's actually one of the issues I haven't resolved on how to treat in my Wilderlands - the D&D rules call for 4-6 villages within the "barony" when the character develops the territory, yet Wilderlands shows villages of as few as 20 (Whan, hex 1005, Map 6 Viridistan).  I don't see a rational to add additional villages since the canon goes down to this level.

There is plenty of wilderness between actual settlements in this area.  [This isn't wilderness as D&D players define it, but rather natural undeveloped areas.  These are often quite vital for inhabitants, especially the supply of firewood (generally only dropped wood) and for foraging and licencing to bodgers  [Rod -"skilled itinerant wood-turners, who worked in the beech woods on the chalk hills of the Chilterns", yeah I had to look this one up myself too] or even lumberers.  As the and becomes more civilised the wilderness diminishes, often causing problems (but fortunately saved by the blessings of technology and civilisation).]

Southampton Town Walls

Rod - yes, this is reflected in my maps as the difference between Market Area and Patrolled.  The Market Area contributes resources to the village or town, but isn't necessarily traversed often enough by the population to be considered patrolled, monsters, barbarians and invaders may be able to pass through without raising an alarm or being pursued.  They'll probably be noticed, but word doesn't get back quickly enough for the village to take effective action as long as you don't tarry.

Depending on the technology level (remember "medieval" covers five centuries or so), will affect the location of the individual settlements (manors), which will be concentrated around rich arable bottom land. As irrigation (especially drainage in England), crop rotation, and plough development improves more land becomes arable.  Settlement on an estate will be scattered in hamlets, as well as the central village (which mainly exists to supply resources for the estate/manor), which are no more than a half-day walk from the central village/manor.  These will be concentrated around the resource to be exploited (food or rarely something else).  The fields will surround the hamlet/village.  Dedicated pasturage may be more distant, but animals are often pastured in fields after the harvest.  Long term projects (such as orchards) will always be around the manor/village since the lord is the only one that can generally afford such an endeavour.

Whitefield Moor, Brockenhurst, Hampshire

Rod - really parallels my thoughts, reading and experiences growing up in rural Minnesota, the vegetable garden was near the house, then the cow pasture and then the woods.  BUT, see my comment above on how Wilderlands already has located every small village, and they don't correspond with the citadel and castle locations.  One option I'm considering is relocating the citadels and castles on the maps for my own version.

I haven't visited many real castles, in fact the only ones I have visited were built to control cities, rather than arable land - Edinburgh, Wolvesey and the Tower of London.  While I don't argue that barons were primarily landowners, my impression has always been that the defensibility of the castle site was more important than proximity to the best farm land on the manor.  This is something for me to look into, it could be a reading bias as storming well sited fortifications is more memorable than taking a keep in a valley.  Well, the fall trip to Scotland has been postponed until 2021, I'll do some more field research then.

The baron (and the surrounding small town) will always be in a pretty centralised location.  It will have a weekly market  (given most of the surrounding villages are up to a half day away).  Traditionally this is on the holy day so that the villages may also attend the baron's magnificent stone church. A baron may even be able to afford an actual small castle (or hill fort) that serves as a mustering point for the barons troops when they are called up.  It may even actually be on a road (second or third class) in more civilised lands.

Rod - I'm inclined to phrase it that the fortification is the centralizing influence (po-tay-to / po-tah-to), especially in the context of a D&D campaign where there really are parts of the map that should be marked "Here be Monsters".   For the same reason, I would state that a fortification must exist in a barony.  

For my world I define roads, trails and paths.  While a road may or may not be paved, ala a Roman road, or even a post-apocalyptic freeway, the distinguishing characteristic of a road is that it will cross rivers via bridges or ferries, while a trail will detour to a natural ford.  Both can handled wheeled traffic, whereas a path is usually only passable on foot or mounted.  I was very happy when Rob Conley posted his map on MeWe showing the secondary roads (trails) in the Wilderlands, as the road network from the originals never made much sense to me.

A baron has  the resources (excess food) to create specialised villages that may exploit  larger resources, such as a dedicated lumber camp or mine.   [On the other hand a lord might dedicate a hamlet to a small version, such as a quarry or clay pit if they have this resource, but they will also need to hire a mason or potter to exploit them.

Rod - hence the rules for Specialists since 0e.  I hadn't really given this any thought, it's a good point only the nobles have the capital (land) to exploit new resources.

That's pretty much my take on it at this lower level.  The higher level stuff depends on the overriding sovereignty and general level of civilisation (which is generally lacking in the wilderlands).

Thank you for your input, Ian, feedback always makes a work better and more enjoyable.

Wilderlands - So how big IS a Barony?

     In my last post, I had graphically demonstrated that there was no room for nomads in Altanis, based on the patrol area of "Baronies" as listed in the canon.

     In this it follows closely with the OD&D booklet Volume 3 The Underworld and Wilderness Adventures which, in lieu of a number of hexes, gives a patrol radius.

     By time we get to AD&D, the term "Baronies" has been changed in the DMG to "Territory Development by Player Characters".  

DMG page 93

     Honestly, I find the rules opaque, the DM gives the player a map of 6 hexes, the scale isn't stated but I assume it's 30 mile campaign hexes.  Then (start) map(ping) the hexes at a 200 yard scale, so they fit nine into a one mile hex.  Once the player has mapped the central hex and six surrounding it - this is the confusing bit - which scale is he talking about, 200 yard, 1 mile or 30 miles?  It will take a LONG time to randomly roll enough 200 yard hexes to map seven 30 mile hexes.  In any case, to get back to how far the character will patrol, I interpret the final paragraph to mean once the character has cleared a thirty mile campaign hex, wandering monster checks are reduced.

     I'm going to add in one more system at this point, Adventurer, Conqueror, King includes domain level play in it's core rules and defines the territories, not only of Baron, but of a number of greater nobles also.

Time for some math!

    The Wilderlands definition of patrolling out four hexes from the center hex creates and area of no less than 61 five mile hexes.  Each file mile hex is an area of 21.65 square miles, so the area of a "Barony" in the Wilderlands is 1320 square miles or 845,216 acres or 342,047 hectares.

     OD&D defines a Barony as patrolling a twenty mile radius,   1256 square miles, or 803,840 acres or 325,303 hectares.

   AD&D is opaque, but I'm going to assume he meant a barony equaled a 30 mile campaign hex or 779 square miles or 498,831 acres, or 201,870 hectares.

    ACKS comes in a a puny six mile hex.  That give it an area of 31 square miles,  or 19,953 acres or 8,075 hectares.

Lets put it in a table and do some real world size comparisons.

Region	Description	Square Miles	Acres	Hectares
San Marino	Fifth smallest country	20	15.36	6216
ACKS	1 x Six mile hex	31	19,953	8,075
Liechtenstein	Sixth smallest country	62	39,680	1658
Rutland	40th largest Ceremonial County	152	97,500	39,457
Sao Tome and Principe	25th smallest country	386	247,040	99,974
Westmoreland	29th largest Ceremonial County	759	485,990	196,637
AD&D	1 x Thirty mile Campaign hex	779	498,831	201,870
Mauritius	26th smallest country	788	504,320	204,091
Rhode Island	Smallest US state	1033	661,120	267,546
Samoa	29th smallest country	1097	702,080	284,122
Gloucestershire	17th largest Ceremonial County	1235	790,470	319,892
OD&D	Twenty mile radius circle	1256	803,840	325,303
Wilderlands	61 x Five mile hexes	1321	845,216	342,047
Cornwall	16th largest Ceremonial County	1336	854,770	345,913
Cabo Verde	30th smallest country	1557	996,480	403,262
Delaware	Second smallest US state	1938	1,240,320	501,940

     In Real World terms,  the areas given for Wilderlands, OD&D and AD&D are simply too big, they are the size of an English County.  Now, I know that Ceremonial Counties do not represent a contiguous landholding, but while their size and boundaries have wavered over time, they do go back to the Norman Conquest where they are used as census units for the Domesday Book.  And that book shows that several barons will have holdings within the County.
    One illustration of the practical issues with the sizes given is the time it would take to patrol areas this large.  For a Wilderlands barony, it would take a single patrol over two months, at twenty miles a day, to pass through every single square mile.   Keeping monsters out of such a large area would be a frustrating game of Whack-a-Mindflayer, even with multiple patrols.

More Math Ahead!

    As long as we've reached this point, what is a reasonable size for a Barony, or any other feudal demesne?  Does ACKS have it right at a about 30 square miles?

    To answer that question, I'm going to pull out my go to system for world-building for the last 40 years - Chivalry and Sorcery.  The old red book provides a system for Designing the Feudal Nation, allowing you to generate the demesnes of the great lords, down to the landed knight.  Who isn't terribly humble even if his small manor house isn't much more impressive than the local inn.
   In this system Barons are the lowest nobles (knights being of "gentle" birth rather than "noble") however, unlike the Dukes, Earls and Counts above them, they are NEVER 'tenants-in-chief' holding their lands directly from the King.  Instead, they report up to one of the great nobles - and their fief is generated as part of generating the demesne and feudal holdings of their overlord.  In short, if when generating the fief holders of the great noble, you randomly generate a small castle or shell keep, you create a barony to hold it.  The barony itself will have fief holders dependent on it, but these will be mere landed knights.

    In the C&S Sourcebook, under Feudal Economics, are rules for calculating the amount of land to grow food for a given population.  There is a page of text, but it comes down to add up the population figures from the table, multiply by 10 to include families, beggars and bandits in the area.  This gives the total population, which is multiplied by 8 to determine the number of acres of cultivated and pasture land required to support the population.

   There is one more source I'm going to pull in, Leonard Cantor's The English Medieval Landscape.  This tome, published four years after the Sourcebook, reviews land use at the time of the Domesday Survey.  It shows that "35% of England was covered in arable land, 25% put to pasture, with 15% covered by woodlands and the remaining 25% predominantly being moorland, fens and heaths."  

     Note that the percentage of crop land to pasturage is reversed from the Sourcebook, but it's the ratios of those together to the total amount of land that I'm interested in obtaining - and that ratio is 6 acres of farm and pasture to 4 acres of wood and wasteland.  I can now calculate the average size of a "Barony".

     In doing so, I am assuming that each Barony will have the same breakdown of land use as the kingdom as a whole.  That is of course, another spherical cow of uniform density - a working approximation that meets my current level of detail.

     So, throwing the C&S tables into a spreadsheet and letting it do the math for me, based on the possible outcomes of the determining the Baron's tenants, I find that a Barony will hold between 56 and 118 square miles of territory, on our five mile hex map that is between 3 and 6 hexes (rounding up to the nearest whole hex).  Because of the distribution of possible out comes, the average size is 81 square miles or 4 hexes.  Now I can re-do the last map.

Altanis Baronies & Villages
Click to enlarge

Now, I have room for Barbarians!